Less Talk, More Do Christopher Finke is a software engineer at Mahalo. He is available for birthday parties and bar mitzvahs.

Top Diggers list is back

Digg removed its top users list this morning. However, as I mentioned yesterday,

It’s an exercise in futility. A competent programmer could easily throw together a page scraper to determine the top submitters, so when the dust settles, Digg will still have problems with pay-for-play, but the most prolific users will no longer be recognized by Digg for their work that makes the site so successful.


To prove my point, I've done exactly that: I've put together a script that displays the top 100 users at Digg, with the list being updated twice per day. You can see the list here.

Update: I do work for Netscape, but this has nothing to do with them. I did this on my own time and of my own volition.

Also, I didn't create this list for any mean-spirited reasons; I enjoy Digg and the service it provides, but I think Kevin made the wrong choice in removing the top users list. I'm not trying to profit off of this, and I'm not trying to scalp members from Digg for Netscape. I'm just proving a point - this data is easily attainable by anyone who is motivated to get it. Removing the top users list from digg.com does little in stopping people from finding out who the top Diggers are.


38 Responses to “Top Diggers list is back”

  1. Alex Rudloff Says:

    Your the f'n man Chris.

  2. Jeremiah Hoyet Says:

    Any chance you could send me the source code? I'm curious how this works. . .

  3. mark Says:

    Thanks for bringing it back

  4. Deep Jive Interests » Why Digg’s New Changes Won’t Really Matter Says:

    [...] So, here’s a reason why it REALLY won’t matter: Chris Finke over at efinke.com has written a scraping program that repopulates a top digger list.  You can find Chris’ own thoughts over here, and the [...]

  5. Top diggers list still available » All Tips and Tricks Says:

    [...] impact was that an enthusiastic programmer, Cristopher Finke brought back the top 100 Digg users list and he promises that it would be updated twice a [...]

  6. Top Digg Users Page is Back Says:

    [...] Christopher Fink, who works for Digg competitor Netscape, is scraping user rankings off of individual profiles on Digg and compiling his own list here. [...]

  7. HMTKSteve Says:

    What are the odds Digg might make some API changes so that your script will no longer work?

  8. Multimedias.mobi » Top Digg Users Page is Back Says:

    [...] Christopher Fink, who works for Digg competitor Netscape, is scraping user rankings off of individual profiles on Digg and compiling his own list here. [...]

  9. Christopher Finke Says:

    HTMKSteve: changing their API would have no effect, as I'm not using it. As long as they still publish the names of the users along with their stories, it can be tracked to determine the top users.

  10. rapture Says:

    The table looks messed up in FF2.0 1600x1200.

  11. jasnmb Says:

    How about including the time that it was last updated?

  12. Innovatorz.org Home (Test) » Blog Archive » Top Digg Users Page is Back Says:

    [...] Christopher Fink, who works for Digg competitor Netscape, is scraping user rankings off of individual profiles on Digg and compiling his own list here. [...]

  13. Adam Says:

    Am I the only one who thinks you're a jerk for doing this?

    Why not respect the (seemingly honorable) intent of Kevin, who is the one who founded AND runs a service that you profess to appreciate? Simply because "[a] competent programmer could easily throw together a page scraper" doesn't mean that:
    1) It's the RIGHT thing to do
    2) You have a responsibility to beat your chest and BE that programmer

    In fact, I think far too much of the 'net and the Web 2.0'osphere (blech) is hell bent on the "well, if it *can* be done, then let's do it!"

    That's bullshit, IMHO. Admirable restraint is clearly in short supply nowadays.

    The annoyed curmudgeon,
    Adam

  14. Christopher Finke Says:

    Adam, I'm sorry you feel that way. I don't agree with your stance, but I understand it.

  15. TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » Diggトップユーザーリスト復活 Says:

    [...] DiggのライバルNetscapeに勤めるChristopher Finkが、Diggユーザーのプロフィールページを個別に収集、コンパイルして独自のリストをここで作成しているのだ。 [...]

  16. Digg Top Users Now Permanently Redirected to the Digg Blog » 10e20 - Search, Design & Social Says:

    [...] Chris Finke has hacked together a page which recreates the Top Users - check out his post here and a direct link to the list here. Posted by Chris Winfield at 12:23 pm Bookmark this post: [...]

  17. Digg Tries To Flatten The Head Of Its Long Tail Participation Curve » Publishing 2.0 Says:

    [...] delicious is this irony? The top digger list is back, reproduced by a Netscape employee. The rankings are apparently being scraped from individual user [...]

  18. blooG - Tecnologia e Internet diariamente Says:

    [...] podía durar mucho, el mismo día ha aparecido nuevamente esta lista pero en otro lugar, creada por Christopher Finke que trabaja para Netscape. Lo que hace es escanear los perfiles de todos los usuarios, que son [...]

  19. Netscape Bringing Top Digg Users Page Back Says:

    [...] Netscape the Digg copy decided to try to keep Digg down by making their own Digg Top Users page. Christopher Finke who works for Netscape decided to pull data from Digg’s user page that still shows the [...]

  20. TechCrunch en français » La page des meilleurs Digg-ers supprimée…puis reconstituée Says:

    [...] à peine cette annonce faite voici que Chritopher Finke, un employé de Netscape, un concurrent de Digg a réussi à reconstituer cette page en analysant [...]

  21. Rex Dixon Says:

    sorry about the dropping of the "e" on your name. I was just doing a quick post before leaving the day gig; and TC had put it up without the "e".

    My apologies! btw, great scrape.

    Rex

  22. sicc Says:

    God job man. It's not the same though, ya know? This is fucking bullshit, why should we have to go and do these things, what was so bad about competition on digg?

    Oh well, good job anyway!

  23. Hello =o » Blog Archive » Top Diggers list is back Says:

    [...] back together after digg did away with it. It’s not really the same, but still pretty cool.read more | digg [...]

  24. Search Engines WEB Says:

    Will Diggs Removal of Top Users Start a Decline in Diggs and Participation ?

    http://seo-serps.livejournal.com

    Here are the final screenshots of the Final Rankings by The Top 30 Digg Users before the changeover in policy.

    There is one for All Users and Active Users.

    Now this blogcompiled a twice daily update of the Top 100.

    We can compare as time goes by, the overall effect on participation and Diggs

  25. On resurrecting Digg’s Top Users page :: Now I Have a Blog Too Says:

    [...] restoration of Digg’s Top Users page yesterday got a lot of press around the [...]

  26. ::lemonup:: - News, Technology, sports, cars, movie, video, blog, travel, mp3, picture, computer, notebook » Top Digg Users Page is Back Says:

    [...] Christopher Fink, who works for Digg competitor Netscape, is scraping user rankings off of individual profiles on Digg and compiling his own list here. [...]

  27. Zaibatsu Says:

    Damnit msaleem passed me again. What's a digger to do!!! Okay everyone you've got to Digg my new amazing Apple, Wii post that'll give you the top ten lowdown with photos of a super secret Digg (anti - Microsoft) agenda.

  28. RazorSharp iPods & Raw Gadgets » Blog Archive » Top Digg Users Page is Back Says:

    [...] Christopher Finke, who works for Digg competitor Netscape, is scraping user rankings off of individual profiles and linking users to the front page stories on Digg. He has compiled his own list here. [...]

  29. HMTKSteve Says:

    They just pulled the ranking information from the user profiles. Will this have any effect on your top diggers page?

  30. Christopher Finke Says:

    The removal of the rank number will have no effect. (Perhaps this will prove wrong the many people who claimed I was just scraping profile pages for that rank value.) They also removed the number of profile views, which I was displaying as well, so my page will no longer contain that data. Because of that, ranking is now determined first by number of popular submissions, and then by the popular ratio, rather than number of profile views. That is the only change.

  31. The Glue Holding Social News Together at The Blog Herald Says:

    [...] and gaming the site. However, within hours, Cristopher Finke (who actually works for Netscape) had recreated it using publicly available [...]

  32. Giggg Says:

    The list lives on. More features to get the algorithm. http://www.giggg.com

  33. The Glue Holding Social News Together » Celebrity Gossip Says:

    [...] and gaming the site. However, within hours, Cristopher Finke (who actually works for Netscape) had recreated it using publicly available [...]

  34. » On resurrecting Digg’s Top Users page - Netscape 9 Says:

    [...] resurrecting Digg’s Top Users page My restoration of Digg’s Top Users page yesterday got a lot of press around the Web: Both the list and my blog post about the list were [...]

  35. list » Top Diggers list is back Says:

    [...] sptblog wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptDigg removed its top users list this morning. However, as I mentioned yesterday,. It’s an exercise in futility. A competent programmer could easily throw together a page scraper to determine the top submitters, so when the dust settles, … [...]

  36. butlimous Says:

    I think this script is not very accurate. I found several scripts that do the same function and they were all different in their results. So, I don't know what is the best one!

  37. David Elton Says:

    What exactly is the digg list? By top users do you mean members who post digg links or users that just click on a digg link already in place to digg what they've just read?

  38. Jose Says:

    I keep getting different results from different scripts. Which is the most accurate?

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